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what has been told in the Quran for the purpose of justifying your standpoint. The verses from 41:9 to 41:12 is very clearly sequential and exclusive. There are certain words that justify those very clearly. Rather you tried to state something, which is not mentioned in the Quran. This should not be the purpose in our question-answer dialogue anyway.
Just look at verse 41:9. It says: …Who created the earth in 2 Days. Now look at the next action very clearly which includes the word "therein" (41:10). "He placed therein firm hills … in 4 Days. Unless something is finished creating how come there could be "therein"?
Now look at 41:11 which says: Then turned He to the heaven when it was smoke, and said unto it and unto the earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come, obedient. And 41:12 says: Then He ordained them seven heavens in 2 Days …
It is very simple that THEN is used to show one sequence after another. Can you show me an example that by using THEN one can show two different actions are happening at a time, unless they are mentioned altogether? But in case of our discussion point the actions are mentioned essentially separately. In fact, the way the sequence is mentioned from 41:9 41:12 it is not 8 days in total, rather it would be more days. By mentioning THEN in 41:11 it is very clear that for the action in this verse Allah also needed some time which is not mentioned here in days. You might argue (which you did) that while He was completing the earth's affairs, Allah did the work simultaneously as mentioned in 41:11. But the way it is articulated in the Quran it is something one after another. Moreover, your attempt of saying that "… when in these four days He has completed the first heaven …" which is completely imaginary from your end. There is not a slightest indication of this in the Quran. (Regarding 41:11 I shall put another different question later on, which is inconsistent with the statement to describe a same action).
Regarding Allah (everybody's Holy Lord) I have no doubt that He can do all things at a time. But my question relates only with the statements in the Quran. Your claim of simultaneous or overlapping actions being mentioned in 41:9 41:12 can be easily disproved by the verse 2:29 which reads: He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth. THEN turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. (Regarding this verse also I shall put another different question later on, which is inconsistent with the statement to describe a same action).
In this connection my simple question is "When He can create anything instantaneously just by saying Be, why did He take such a long time of 6 or 8 days or so (?)? "Be! And it is" [2:117]. In such case He could have created the earth and heaven at a time instantaneously, not taking so many days which is much longer than human time!
I have no doubt in relation to the verse 2:26. Certainly Allah has used similes or parables, but that must be something realistic. Anything that never has existence or is preposterous cannot be accepted.
Coming to my 2nd question I really do not understand what you meant by your explanation. It seems that your explanation is more complicated than the Quran itself (you wrote: There is no reference … a few minutes longer or shorter). Could you please make it a little simpler? Also its relevance. My simple question was "how the Sun could go down into the muddy spring?"
18:86 says: Till, he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, …
18:90 says: Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, …
How come there are setting and rising places because it is just absurd. The scientific phenomenon you know much better, which I also mentioned in my previous mail. What could be its explanation?
Moreover, another verse confirms that there is a resting place for the sun and there is Muhammad's (pbuh) explanations for this, which is extremely unscientific. I am sure you know it. For your convenience I am mentioning the verse from the Quran.
36:38 says; And the Sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
I also understood pretty well about your example of equation with constant or variables. I myself is a student of science and research and I know this pretty well. But my point was simple mathematical calculation of 2+2+3=7 ie when you know that certain distributions are made based on a number like 120 as a whole. I shall use this reference when we shall talk about the inheritance law in Quran.
Finally could I implore you sir to be very simple in explaining your logic and stick to what Quran is saying, not any remoulding.
I shall get back to you as soon as I get your response. Please give me your kind patience for reading my arguments and getting back to me with your arguments.
May the Holy Lord bless you and place you in heaven for your good deeds of learning about the Creator and His creations.
Your brother . . .
Dear Brother,
Assalam alaykum,
As you freely admit you are working from translations where my response was from reading the Arabic Qur'an and nothing else. After I had written my response I referred to several tafsirs to ensure that I was in no way misleading you or speaking from my own preference. You may care to read the revised tafsir of Abdullah Yusuf Ali, which is the one approved by the ulama of Saudi Arabia and distributed by them to the English speaking world, and I have also referred to Kitab al-Safi fi Tafsir al-Qur'an. Both of these works, by masters of Arabic grammar, concur with my reading of the verses that they are not describing, overall, sequential
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